What bothers you most about fashion industry is...

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Callie85 wrote:

Thats like saying dairy cows don't make sense .... animals are used for different purposes on every level

I though once the dairy cows are too old to produce milk they were eaten as well. I'm not so knowledgeable about the meat industry.

But what a waste...

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LAKSHMI:
“She didn’t do anything in New York. To tell the truth, the trend is toward the white girl.” - Casting Agent

Shocked

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The fashion industry has too many issues. I wish there was more diversity in races, more healthy happy models, and less animal abuse. Sad

But of course, every industry has issues. I think the fashion industry goes overboard.

I know some designers say that their clothes "only look good on white girls" then what, force colored people to not buy them? So if like, Beyonce asks to wear some clothes from that certain designer they'll reject because it "doesn't look good on black girls"? What kind of design talent is that?

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There are lots of things wrong with the fashion industry. But the people in it are to fickle to change.

Yeah Spain banned skinny models but Spain was never a fashion capital so it doesn't really matter. If Paris did it how much would that change the industry? New York set up like two rules. They hardly help.

The racism sucks I mean Prada not having a black girl in a show for EIGHT years?!?!? I can probably count the Asian, Latino, and black top models of today with both my hands. That's kinda sad.

And sexual orientation is a big deal too. I've heard that gay models get discriminated against. I find that sad considering the fact that this is an industry made up by gays.

It seems that the more the world wants the fashion industry to change they more it refuses.

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diorelle wrote:

There are lots of things wrong with the fashion industry. But the people in it are to fickle to change.

Yeah Spain banned skinny models but Spain was never a fashion capital so it doesn't really matter. If Paris did it how much would that change the industry? New York set up like two rules. They hardly help.

The racism sucks I mean Prada not having a black girl in a show for EIGHT years?!?!? I can probably count the Asian, Latino, and black top models of today with both my hands. That's kinda sad.

And sexual orientation is a big deal too. I've heard that gay models get discriminated against. I find that sad considering the fact that this is an industry made up by gays.

It seems that the more the world wants the fashion industry to change they more it refuses.

Actually, it was 11 years. Not 8. Gay models are discriminated? I've never heard of that before.

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Jenni wrote:

diorelle wrote:

There are lots of things wrong with the fashion industry. But the people in it are to fickle to change.

Yeah Spain banned skinny models but Spain was never a fashion capital so it doesn't really matter. If Paris did it how much would that change the industry? New York set up like two rules. They hardly help.

The racism sucks I mean Prada not having a black girl in a show for EIGHT years?!?!? I can probably count the Asian, Latino, and black top models of today with both my hands. That's kinda sad.

And sexual orientation is a big deal too. I've heard that gay models get discriminated against. I find that sad considering the fact that this is an industry made up by gays.

It seems that the more the world wants the fashion industry to change they more it refuses.

Actually, it was 11 years. Not 8. Gay models are discriminated? I've never heard of that before.

Amanda Moore has talked about it and I've read articles about models who keep their orientation a secret so that they aren't discriminated against.

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I visit this blog regularly cause it makes me feel good about myself and .... i saw this ... i cheered for hours on end (not literally but you get ma point lol

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Tuesday, June 10, 2008

CFDA Health Initiative Discussion: "We've Been Drinking the Kool-Aid"

I attended a CFDA Health Initiative discussion last night focusing on "The Beauty of Health: How the Fashion Industry Can Make a Difference." [Usually this is a team effort, but Magali is on vacation with her family. She was sorry to miss it.] This was the third health initiative event they've hosted since releasing their guidelines in 2007.

Some highlights:

Nian Fish of KCD (whose Q & A was our very first blog post almost a year ago) is sick of the ultra-thin look. "Size zero. What is that?" she asked the audience, which included Anna Wintour and Donna Karan. "A size zero means you're invisible. I think we have brainwashed ourselves into believing that is beautiful. It's time to admit that we've all been drinking the Kool-Aid."

James Scully has been an outspoken advocate for reform in fashion, so I was happy to see him step up to the microphone. As one of the most sought-after casting agents in the industry, he knows that he and his colleagues have a responsibility to understand the power of their words and the tremendous influence they can have in young models' lives. "Magali talks about how her life would have taken a different turn if she had received caring support instead of harsh words about her weight," he said. "I think about that every day. Let's stop treating models like greyhounds we plan to shoot after a race. We have to remember we are dealing with real people who have real feelings."

Michael Kors also reminded everyone to treat models as humans, not mannequins. He challenged designers to "stay away from child-size clothes unless you're designing for children,"
pointing out that fashion influences the Hollywood aesthetic--and when celebrities starve themselves to fit into sample sizes, it has a dangerous and far-reaching influence on girls and women everywhere.

ModelCoco Rocha did not hold back. She said that a day in the life of most models involves an obsession with staying thin, a constant hunger, and cutting remarks like "We don't want you to be anorexic. We just want you to look like you are." She admitted that an agent once advised her to throw up after meals. Last year she gave in to the pressure and took diuretics--a decision she seriously regrets. After consulting other models, she offered four recommendations:
1. To designers: make your fit models bigger (i.e. make your clothes bigger). When zippers don't zip up at castings, models suffer unbearable humiliation.
2. Keep working to raise awareness about the long-term effects of eating disordered behavior. If young models knew the permanent damage they were causing to their bodies, they might think twice.
3. Agencies need to be closely linked with medical professionals, including nutritionists and eating disorder specialists.
4. Provide healthier food at shows.

I left the discussion with a hopeful outlook. Go ahead, call me the eternal optimist. Magali and I have been working to raise awareness about eating disorders and body image issues in the fashion industry since 1999. For many, it might seem as though change is happening at a snail's pace. But in the span of our work together, the last two years have felt like giant leaps forward. More and more people are finally speaking the truth. We need that kind of honesty. We can't get to a healthier place without it.

http://5resolutions.blogspot.com/2008/06/cfda-health-initiative-discussion-weve.html

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Callie85 wrote:

I visit this blog regularly cause it makes me feel good about myself and .... i saw this ... i cheered for hours on end (not literally but you get ma point lol

Quote:

Tuesday, June 10, 2008

CFDA Health Initiative Discussion: "We've Been Drinking the Kool-Aid"

I attended a CFDA Health Initiative discussion last night focusing on "The Beauty of Health: How the Fashion Industry Can Make a Difference." [Usually this is a team effort, but Magali is on vacation with her family. She was sorry to miss it.] This was the third health initiative event they've hosted since releasing their guidelines in 2007.

Some highlights:

Nian Fish of KCD (whose Q & A was our very first blog post almost a year ago) is sick of the ultra-thin look. "Size zero. What is that?" she asked the audience, which included Anna Wintour and Donna Karan. "A size zero means you're invisible. I think we have brainwashed ourselves into believing that is beautiful. It's time to admit that we've all been drinking the Kool-Aid."

James Scully has been an outspoken advocate for reform in fashion, so I was happy to see him step up to the microphone. As one of the most sought-after casting agents in the industry, he knows that he and his colleagues have a responsibility to understand the power of their words and the tremendous influence they can have in young models' lives. "Magali talks about how her life would have taken a different turn if she had received caring support instead of harsh words about her weight," he said. "I think about that every day. Let's stop treating models like greyhounds we plan to shoot after a race. We have to remember we are dealing with real people who have real feelings."

Michael Kors also reminded everyone to treat models as humans, not mannequins. He challenged designers to "stay away from child-size clothes unless you're designing for children,"
pointing out that fashion influences the Hollywood aesthetic--and when celebrities starve themselves to fit into sample sizes, it has a dangerous and far-reaching influence on girls and women everywhere.

ModelCoco Rocha did not hold back. She said that a day in the life of most models involves an obsession with staying thin, a constant hunger, and cutting remarks like "We don't want you to be anorexic. We just want you to look like you are." She admitted that an agent once advised her to throw up after meals. Last year she gave in to the pressure and took diuretics--a decision she seriously regrets. After consulting other models, she offered four recommendations:
1. To designers: make your fit models bigger (i.e. make your clothes bigger). When zippers don't zip up at castings, models suffer unbearable humiliation.
2. Keep working to raise awareness about the long-term effects of eating disordered behavior. If young models knew the permanent damage they were causing to their bodies, they might think twice.
3. Agencies need to be closely linked with medical professionals, including nutritionists and eating disorder specialists.
4. Provide healthier food at shows.

I left the discussion with a hopeful outlook. Go ahead, call me the eternal optimist. Magali and I have been working to raise awareness about eating disorders and body image issues in the fashion industry since 1999. For many, it might seem as though change is happening at a snail's pace. But in the span of our work together, the last two years have felt like giant leaps forward. More and more people are finally speaking the truth. We need that kind of honesty. We can't get to a healthier place without it.

http://5resolutions.blogspot.com/2008/06/cfda-health-initiative-discussion-weve.html

Yay for Coco! and all the designers! I do not like watching skeletons dominate the runways either. I prefer healthy happy women.

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A BMI of 19 or under is considered underweight. An average model, about 5'10 and 115 pounds, has a BMI of 16 Shocked

i calculated myself, so i might be wrong, but it must be true to some extent.

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Its different for people under 18.
and the healthy BMI is 18 aswell.